Kingsman: The Golden Circle

Blu-ray Highlights: Week of December 10th, 2017 – Circle of Confusion

They say you can’t go home again, but Hollywood refuses to listen and keeps churning out sequels and knockoffs to once-successful movies. Some of those hit Blu-ray this week, along with far too many packaging variations for the new season of a hit HBO show.

Which Blu-rays Interest You This Week (12/12/17)?

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New Releases (Blu-ray)

Kingsman: The Golden Circle‘ – The 2014 James Bond riff ‘Kingsman: The Secret Service’ was really entertaining but had some problematic elements that left a sour taste in many viewers’ mouths. Matthew Vaughn returns to direct the follow-up, which reportedly doubles down on those issues. Though it made roughly the same amount of money, both critics and audiences were a lot less impressed with this one. Disc options include Blu-ray and Ultra HD, with hideous SteelBooks for both at Best Buy.

Home Again‘ – Reese Witherspoon has made a lot of bad rom-coms in her day. Here’s a new one, in which she plays a middle-aged woman who falls for a man half her age. The movie was written and directed by Hallie Meyers-Shyer, the daughter of rom-com power couple Nancy Meyers and Charles Shyer (who between them are responsible for ‘The Parent Trap’, ‘What Women Want’, ‘It’s Complicated’ and more). Despite very closely following her parents’ rigid formula, no one had much interest in this.

Detroit‘ – Remember when Kathryn Bigelow was a B-movie director behind such cheese as ‘Blue Steel’ and ‘Point Break’? Now that she has an Oscar and is a figurehead for all women filmmakers, she apparently feels a responsibility to only make important Issue movies with a capital “I.” Her latest is a harrowing drama about the 1967 Detroit riots. Reviews were generally favorable but not quite as enthusiastic as those for ‘The Hurt Locker’ or ‘Zero Dark Thirty’.

All Saints‘ – John Corbett stars in a faith-based thing about a Christian pastor who teaches his congregation important lessons about trying not to be quite so racist after Burmese refugees have the audacity to move to their Tennessee town. See, white men really can make the world a better place! Aren’t white men just the best?

UHD

You can buy ‘Kingsman: The Golden Circle‘ on Ultra HD either by itself or bundled with the first movie. Other 4k releases this week include Oscar winner ‘Moonlight‘ and the IMAX documentary ‘Mysteries of China‘.

Catalog Titles

The Criterion Collection brings us more Reese Witherspoon with Alexander Payne’s hilarious 1999 dark comedy ‘Election‘. The film was previously released on Blu-ray by Paramount in 2009. The Criterion copy features a new video master and new supplements.

The week’s other Criterion offerings are Barbet Schroeder’s landmark 1974 documentary ‘General Idi Amin Dada: A Self-Portrait‘ and a reissue of the 3-disc ‘The Complete Monterey Pop Festival‘ box set, which promises remastered video for all three features. A standalone copy of just 1968’s ‘Monterey Pop’ is also available.

Cohen Media digs up the 1983 travelogue romance ‘Heat and Dust‘ from director James Ivory (of the Merchant-Ivory team).

In addition to that ghastly SteelBook for ‘The Golden Circle’, Fox puts the original ‘Kingsman‘ in a matching ugly case (just Blu-ray this time, no UHD).

Arrow Video is quite busy this week. Broken out from their recent box set are the 1986 ghost story ‘House‘ and its sequel ‘House II: The Second Story‘. More horror schlock comes with the 1973 ‘Malatesta’s Carnival of Blood‘ and 1976 ‘The Premonition‘. The only Arrow title in this batch not on the horror theme is the 1972 crime comedy ‘Pulp‘, which reunites Michael Caine with his ‘Get Garter’ director Mike Hodges.

I don’t generally pay much attention to music titles, but the 1980 punk rock documentary ‘D.O.A.: A Right of Passage‘ (yes, the title misspells the word “rite,” which I guess is a punk thing to do) will make an interesting companion to the recent Criterion Blu-ray for ‘Sid & Nancy’.

Television

Game of Thrones‘ fans are forced to choose between multiple versions of the show’s seventh season. Best Buy has not one but two SteelBooks (mostly the same design aside from a color difference), plus another exclusive with a slipcover. Target has an exclusive bonus disc, and Amazon adds in something called ‘Conquest & Rebellion’ which is described as an “animated history of Westeros.”

In case you don’t have Netflix, now you can catch up with the first season of Marvel’s ‘Luke Cage‘ on disc as well.

My $.02

I’m working on a review for ‘Election’. ‘General Idi Amin Dada’ and ‘Pulp’ will go on my wish list. I can probably wait for the ‘Kingsman’ sequel to turn up on HBO.

Which discs get your vote this week?

51 comments

  1. I’ve been buying early digital releases of many movies lately, so often times when it comes to this weekly survey, I’ve already seen/purchased a digital version of the most appealing titles releasing on blu-ray a week or more prior.

    So what I DID buy was ‘Kingsman: Golden Ciricle’, and I was not dissapointed. I was a big fan of the first one, and was hyped about a 2nd in the series, and I’d blind buy a 3rd.

    • Oh, and I also bought an early release of Detroit digitally, but have yet to watch it. Maybe I’ll get a chance this week, but I really plan on rewatching all the (good) Star Wars movies in preperation for this weekend.

      • …and just now I picked up a digital copy of ‘Dunkirk’ for $8. I know this site is about Blu-Rays, with just a portion discussing digital content, but I can’t imagine I’m the only one who’s release day disc purchasing has been impacted by digital purchases. I almost bought ‘Dunkirk’ from Fandangonow as a digital early release for $16 (after coupon) and that seemed a decent option instead of waiting for a disc…how could I pass up getting it for $8?

        I’m curious about the editor’s perspective here on the purchase of digital codes separate from discs. I know that Disney has taken issue with Red Box doing this.

        • Josh Zyber
          Author

          If Redbox is purchasing regular retail copies of discs and they come with digital codes, I think they should be able to sell those codes separately if they want. (Note: I am not a lawyer.) I certainly have no issue with it. However, if Redbox receives early copies from the distributor as part of an exclusive release window, and they’re marked “Not for Resale,” then Redbox would clearly be in the wrong in that case.

          • William Henley

            I usually don’t side with movie studios, but on this one, I am kind of with Disney. You are buying one license to the movie. They include in the package the movie on different media (4k, Blu-Ray, DVD, digital, whatever). If you sell off any of those seperate from the rest of the package, suddenly you are splitting it into more than one license, and are unjustly profiting from it whereas the studio is not. There is no way you could look at that as any way other than theft of interlectual property. There is no way Redbox is going to win this one.

            Now if they charged you extra for the extra discs or codes, then maybe you could get an argument, however, as movies are pretty much priced now the same as they were 10 years ago when all you got was a single disc, it is going to be hard to argue that you are paying for the extra media or have been granted more than one license for the content.

          • Josh Zyber
            Author

            So you think that someone who buys a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack shouldn’t be allowed to sell the DVD?

            The studio profited when you purchased the set from them. You paid for both parts and should be allowed to sell them in however many pieces you want.

            You are basically arguing against the concept of reselling altogether. Can you not resell a product you’ve purchased, or would that be too unfair to the movie studio for not being able to profit off a single product twice?

          • Josh – I think I understand the perspective of William, which is why I was wondering the stance of HDD. If it was in a legally grey area, I wouldn’t want to be bringing up the existence of a digital code resale market. If it is kosher, it’s existence is worth noting as it can impact movie purchasing habits. While it may not be an activity of every day movie buyers, many of us here are not “every day” movie buyers.

            So with what William says, I see it as this: When Vudu offers a digital copy through their Disc to Digital program, you are paying $2 for a digital copy based on your ownership of a license for that movie already. You bought a license when you bought the disc, so the digital copy is being sold for just $2. Otherwise, a stand along digital copy will cost you significantly more, as it includes a license purchase.

            I think William is saying that…lets say the Disney Diamond edition of ‘Brave’…the package includes Blu-Ray/3D Blu-Ray/DVD and digital copies that (prior to Movies Anywhere) allowed you to redeem a DMA copy and an iTunes copy separately. That is 5 formats of the same movie, all acquired in one purchase. The stance seems to be that you have only bought one license, and that if you gave your digital copy code to a friend they wouldn’t actually have a legal license for that title.

          • Josh Zyber
            Author

            The idea that you are purchasing a “license” to watch a movie is something dreamed up by the Hollywood studios, who would love nothing more than to charge you over and over again for a product you’ve already paid for.

            Say you go to the market to buy an apple, but the market only sells apples in bags of 12. So you buy the bag and eat the one apple you want. Are you not allowed to resell the other 11 apples because you’ve only purchased a license for one bag of apples as a complete set?

            Once the digital code is activated, it is non-transferable. It’s not like I can use the code, watch the movie, and then sell it to someone else. However, if I choose not to use the code, it should be within my rights to sell it. The studio has already taken my money for the code, and is not “losing” another sale any more than if the second person had bought the entire disc set off me.

            (Again, I am not a lawyer. This is not the official position of High-Def Digest or Internet Brands, just my personal opinion.)

          • William Henley

            To answer the original question, legally, no, you cannot resell just one of the discs – however, you can resell all of the discs together. When you sell said movie, you are transfering your license to the movie to another individual. If you have redeemed the digital copy, then you are technically doing something illegal.

            I never said I LIKED the idea that you are purchasing a license, but that is very clearly how the law for interlectual property is designed.

            Vudu has deals with the movie studios to allow you to get a digital copy for just $2. You technically are not buying an additional license – you are verifying that you already have the disc, and are pretty much paying Vudu for the costs of streaming it (I doubt the studios get much, if anything, from the agreement – I am sure most of the money is going to Vudu. How much it costs to stream a movie would depend on how often you watch it, so I am sure Vudu is still coming out ahead there.)

            So regardless if you AGREE with the idea that you are purchasing a license, from a legal perspective, that is pretty much what you are agreeing to do. This is why what Redbox is doing is not just grey area, it is black and white illegal.

            In fact, if Redbox is actually purchasing the movies off the shelf, then renting of the movies is also illegal, as the copyright warning specifically states that the motion picture contained on the disc is for private home use only and is not for rent, sell, or any other public viewing without written consent.

          • Bolo

            I’m pretty sure William is correct on this. It comes back to the concept of personal use and the right to make copies of something for personal use linked to ownership of the primary property.

            Like if you bought a CD, you are within your rights to rip the files onto your computer and listen to them on your mp3 player, and you can use songs from that CD to make a mixed tape if you still have a cassette player. But if you start giving or selling copies to other people, you are engaged in piracy. The only real difference with the digital download code is that they are providing you with the tools to make the copy and they are controlling those tools.

            They don’t make the codes transferable because they don’t care about secondary markets. Legally, you are supposed to delete any copies you’ve made of something upon sale of the primary property.

          • Josh Zyber
            Author

            The flaw in this argument is that the studio will also sell a streaming version of the movie direct to consumers, without the disc. The streaming version is not a “copy” of the disc. It is a consumable product unto itself. The Blu-ray/DVD/Digital HD combo pack is a box set containing multiple separate items.

            If I bought a complete set of encyclopedias, no one could stop me from selling Volume A, Volume B, Volume C, etc. separately from each other.

          • EM

            If I buy a standard retail book of Edgar Allan Poe stories (as happens from time to time) and then I rip out individual stories to sell (um…I never do that, but bear with me) and then different people actually buy the ripped-out tales (I don’t know why they would, but this is just hypothetical; so, chill), there’s no license being violated, even if the presentation of the Poe tales (themselves in the public domain) is under valid copyright (e.g., because of the addition of illustrations or annotations). I bought the book, and I can sell or even give away the book, whether intact or with its “Tell-Tale Heart” ripped out. Copyright law does restrict me from, say, making copies of the copyrighted material for sale (or for keeping while I sell the originals), but the license is bullshit. Of course, so are such legally hallowed concepts as “corporations are people capable of a close personal relationship with Jesus” and “money is speech, and the more money ya got, the more speech ya got”—but that’s when you need to fight the corrupt power rather than make excuses for it.

          • William Henley

            The reason Josh’s argument falls apart about buying a digital copy directly from the seller is because, once again, you are buying a license, and the studio is delivering the content to you on a chosen medium, whether it be tape, disc, usb stick, memory card, hard drive, streaming, whatever.

            If I bought a book, and it includes a free Kindle copy, that is not two different books that I could sell one of. That is one book, and the seller has offered to give it to me in multiple formats. I have no right to sell off the digital copy and keep the book.

            If I buy a CD on Amazon and Amazon decided to give be access to the songs on the disc immediately on my cloud music storage (which they do quite often), that doesn’t give me the right to download the MP3s from them and give or sell them to another because I will never use the cloud storage thing. This is a convienance factor offered by Amazon.

            Movies are the same way. If I buy a disc and I get a digital copy with it, I cannot sell the digital copy, just like I cannot sell the MP3s that Amazon gave me with my CD or the Kindle version I got with my book. No matter how you look at it, it is theft and illegal.

          • Josh Zyber
            Author

            I’m sorry, William, but I don’t agree. Frankly, your argument makes no sense to me.

            If you have both a hardcover and a paperback copy of a book, are you not allowed to sell one because you only have one “license” to read the book? If you accidentally purchased two identical Blu-ray copies of a movie, are you prohibited from selling one because they’re both part of the same license? The notion is absurd.

            4k, Blu-ray, 3D, DVD and Digital HD may all have the same movie on them, but they are separate products for separate uses. One is for watching on a 4k player, one for a Blu-ray player, one for streaming over the internet, etc. The studio is more than happy to sell each of them separately to you from the others, and would in fact love it you bought all of them individually. In fact, they often force you to do that in the way they choose to break out the formats for sale.

            The 4k/3D/Blu-ray/DVD/Digital HD combo pack costs more than the standalone DVD edition. The studio is not giving any of them to you for “convenience” out of the goodness of their hearts. You are paying to own all of them as a collection. Nor does the studio automatically give you a format upgrade when it’s available just because you happen to own the license to watch the movie when you bought the DVD. You have to pay for another format. Each copy provides its own license for its particular use (4k, Blu-ray, streaming, etc.), and therefore can be broken out and sold separately. Whether you originally bought them individually or together in a bundle is irrelevant.

          • William – One step further…what about Wal-Mart’s Instawatch program with Vudu?

            If you buy certain Blu-Ray movies from Wal-Mart, you will get a digital copy through Instawatch/Vudu at the time of purchase or at the time an online order ships. This code is separate from any digital code bundled with the disc.

            So now you have a digital copy of a movie in your Ultraviolet/Vudu account, and a brand new/sealed Blu-Ray.

            As the Blu-Ray is your property, you are free to resell it as a brand new item online. You can, in theory, get back all of your money spent on the initial purchase of the Blu-Ray. When selling it, are you selling off the license that is associated with the Instawatch digital copy?

          • Josh: “Nor does the studio automatically give you a format upgrade when it’s available just because you happen to own the license to watch the movie when you bought the DVD.”

            IMAGINE THAT! That we would automatically get a newer, ‘better’ version of the movie we already bought. We buy ‘DUNE’ on Blu-ray, and we get a 4K/8K/16K years later down the road, because we once bought the movie. Imagine that. The amount of money we would save. I love this idea. Sadly, it’s not a reality.

          • Bolo

            A lot of this is probably determined by the lengthy terms of service that you agree to when you sign up for these digital viewing services (ya know, the ones most people don’t read).

            But, laws that govern digital content are generally totally separate and very different from laws that govern physical goods. So analogies involving bags of apples don’t usually apply. Digital content that is classified as a copy or backup of a physical original is totally different than a sale of standalone digital content, even though that content may be identical (for example, a rip of a CD vs a digital purchase of that same album).

            If the court determines that the digital download included with the physical copy is in fact a copy of that physical original, then it cannot be legally transferred without the physical copy.

            It would be interesting to see how this would play out with a real judge. I doubt the movie studios would bother to pursue it, because it would be petty and laborious to chase down regular joes who just want to sell off some old blu ray for chump change. If a major retailer is splitting up the package and selling them separately, then it might be worth their while to drop the legal hammer on them.

          • William Henley

            True, but the person who is redeeming the code HAS agreed to the terms of service, so once again, the argument doesn’t hold.

            NJ’s comment about Instant Watch is exactly the same as Amazon’s Instant Music program – you have still only purchased one license to the movie, not multiple. If I went out and bought multiple copies of the movies, then I could resell the movies – with all the discs and digital codes inside.

            If I resell a used disc without the digital code, that is fine, but the digital code must be trashed or destroyed – if I seperate the two and give the code to one person and the disc to someone else, then you are breaching the terms of the license.

            You actually don’t have to sign anything to agree to a legal contract. If you attend an event where they are filming, you are giving them permission to capture your image. If you do not agree to this, then you do not get to attend the event. Simply by showing up,

            By eating a candy bar, you are agreeing to the sugar rush it will give you, the weight you may or may not put on, any allergy information that is listed on the package, the release of endorphans from the chocolate.

            Now something that a lot of studios DO allow is for you to share your ultraviolet library with other family members. That is fine, that is part of the license agreement. So yes, I could buy the movie, and share the digital copy with my mother two states away, considering our libraries are linked. Now, could I e-mail her the code. Eh, now that is a gray area if I didn’t redeem it myself. I doubt that any lawyer would want to pick that apart in court.

            Look at the Ultraviolet wording in their marketing material

            https://cdn.highdefdigest.com/uploads/2017/07/05/660/UltraViolet_Logo_Ad.png

            Your movies in the cloud. Download your movies to your computer. Ultraviolet provides instant access to your movie. By the very print, it makes it clear that these are perks the studio is giving you (and up to six of your family members) for buying the movie.

            As to the studios offering Blu-Rays with 4k discs and DVDs with Blu-Rays, you often cannot buy a Blu-Ray WITHOUT the included dvd or a 4k disc WITHOUT the included Blu-Ray. They aren’t charging more for the extra disc, they are charging more for the higher quality because they can. A new Disney Blu-Ray with the included DVD will cost you just as much (not taking into account sales and such) as a Blu-Ray without the added DVD did 8 years ago, And the Blu-Ray is going to cost about the same price as the DVD alone did in 2000, which will be about the same price the VHS was in 1993 (and significantly less than the Laserdisc). Taking into account inflation, you are actually paying LESS in 2017 for all the discs and the digital copies than you were paying for the disc alone 15 years ago.

            No matter how you try to cut it or justify it, what Redbox is doing is flat out illegal – they are renting movies they purchased from other retailers, breaking the FBI warning on the disc, and they are then selling the digital codes. The smart thing at this point will be for Redbox to settle with Disney – if they try to take this to court, Redbox will loose.

          • Bolo

            No, you haven’t, but the person who redeems the code you’ve sold them must agree to the terms of service. And if those terms of service stipulate that all download codes that were bundled with a physical release of a movie can only be redeemed by the possessor of that physical media, then the person redeeming that code is violating the terms of service.

          • Bolo

            I am just speculating.

            Like I said, I doubt they really care about individuals selling off codes. It’s not worth their time to chase them. So if they haven’t bothered to protect themselves this way, it wouldn’t surprise me. However it also wouldn’t surprise me if they did either. I mean, if you’re lawyers are drafting up a terms of service agreement, you might as well throw the kitchen sink in there to give yourself the most options possible.

          • Bolo – Code resales can have a big impact on certain studios. Disney comes to mind, as it is rare to find stand alone digital releases of their titles below $19.99/$14.99. So a digital code from a Blu-Ray of a Marvel movie could sell for $12.99…$12.99 Disney isn’t getting.

            This is even more so the case with Disney movies in the “vault”. I paid somewhere between $25 – $30 for JUST the digital code of Sleeping Beauty. While I didn’t have the option of making a purchase from Disney (or any “legit” retailer), I could have bought the Blu-Ray with digital code for $70 – $100 from a reseller. These Disney codes, for awhile, were also split between iTunes and DMA…so a reseller of ‘Ant-Man’ could buy the Blu-Ray package for $19.99, then sell off two copies at $10 each. It’s gotta have SOME impact on the studios.

          • William Henley

            Ultraviolet terms of use

            https://c.uvvu.com/Consent/Text/US/urn:dece:type:policy:TermsOfUse:20140811/html

            Under section IV
            For example, and without limitation, you may not:
            – use the Services for any commercial purpose; or

            Under Section V
            We may, in our sole discretion and without any notice or liability to you, restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to part or all of the Services if we believe you or a user of your UltraViolet Library are using or have used the Services in violation of the Terms, laws, regulations, code of practice, or similar requirements, or in any manner other than for its intended purpose and in accordance with all other applicable guidelines and requirements, or in the case of a request from law enforcement or other government authorities; unexpected technical issues or problems; or if we reasonably believe that your UltraViolet Library has been created fraudulently or a user of your UltraViolet Library has otherwise committed fraud. We may, upon reasonable notice to you, terminate any UltraViolet Library that is inactive for one year. We may modify, suspend, or cease providing the Services or any portion of the Services at any time without notice or any liability to you or any third party.

            Under Section VI
            our use of the Services does not grant to you ownership or title of, in or to any Materials, any other part of the Services, or content. The Services, Materials, and content associated with your UltraViolet Library are for your personal and non-commercial use only. You may not reproduce, distribute, copy, perform, display, modify, create derivative works from, or offer for sale any information contained on or obtained from or through the Services or the Materials, without our express written consent. Without limiting the foregoing, you are not permitted to republish or reproduce any part of the Services on another website, in any other medium (print, electronic or otherwise) or as part of any commercial service without our prior written permission. The creation and use of an UltraViolet Library does not grant you any intellectual property or other rights therein.

            Your rights with respect to any specific content associated with your UltraViolet Library are established by the retailer from which you obtained such rights and are subject to the limitations and restrictions imposed by copyright holders and other third parties. When you obtain rights to content, that content remains subject to the intellectual property rights of the copyright owner and other third parties and is being licensed to you with limitations and restrictions and is not sold to you. You may only use the content for your personal, non-commercial use as expressly authorized by the copyright owner and other applicable third parties, including the applicable retaile

            *Mic drop*

          • Bolo

            NJScorpio – I’ve never understood Disney’s “vault” approach to home video releases. To my mind, it only serves to drive up the costs for secondary markets from which they do not profit.

            I don’t doubt that individuals selling off download codes eats into the profits of studios. But how much of these costs they would be able to recover by going after these individuals is what makes it not worth their time. I suppose you could argue that there’s an intimidation factor to making examples of a few token individuals.

          • William – That TOS seems to just cover the rights related to content in your UV library, or obtained through UV.
            > our use of the Services does not grant to you ownership or title of, in or to any Materials, any other part of the Services, or content. The Services, Materials, and content associated with your UltraViolet Library are for your personal and non-commercial use only. You may not reproduce, distribute, copy, perform, display, modify, create derivative works from, or offer for sale any information contained on or obtained from or through the Services or the Materials, without our express written consent.

            So once you have content from UV, they are basically saying that you don’t own ****, and that they can take that **** away from you at any time.

            But this doesn’t cover the policy prior to movie redeeming, related to the separation of a digital code from a physical disc package.

            It DOES talk about your rights regarding the movie being determined by way of the service you used to redeem the title, and how the content available may change at the discretion of the license holder…but again, it doesn’t talk about the validity of a code based on where you got it from, or the validity of an UV title in your library based on how you purchased it.

            I have a feeling this may fall under the policies of the disc publisher/studio instead.

            FYI, if you look in your UV library…it shows by what service you attained your title, but not by what method. If you bought a title through Vudu, or redeemed a digital code, it appears the same way in your UV locker.

          • William Henley

            @NJ – Last paragraph I posted

            Your rights with respect to any specific content associated with your UltraViolet Library are established by the retailer from which you obtained such rights and are subject to the limitations and restrictions imposed by copyright holders and other third parties. When you obtain rights to content, that content remains subject to the intellectual property rights of the copyright owner and other third parties and is being licensed to you with limitations and restrictions and is not sold to you. You may only use the content for your personal, non-commercial use as expressly authorized by the copyright owner and other applicable third parties

            Your rights are granted to you with the purchase of the disc. It specifically says you cannot use ultraviolet content for commercial use. Selling of the codes by Redbox is commercial use.

          • William – That talks about the rights associated with content in your Ultraviolet library. What we are talking about is your rights prior to redemption. What is your rights when you have a Blu-Ray in hand, and a Digital Code in hand. Can you sell off both separated from each other to two different people?

            >Your rights with respect to any specific content associated with your UltraViolet Library are established by the retailer from which you obtained such rights and are subject to the limitations and restrictions imposed by copyright holders and other third parties.

            So it’s the rights regarding the content in your Ultraviolet library, determined by who you redeemed the code through, and the license right holder…but again, this is all about the rights once the content is in your Ultraviolet library.

          • William – I’m definitely not splitting hairs. The UV TOS talks about the TOS related to your Ultraviolet library, it doesn’t cover the subject we are talking about, which is distribution of the code separately from the disc. That falls under the studio/publisher. It mentions that specific rights regarding the content defers to the license holder, but it doesn’t talk about redemption rights, or anything at all related to physical discs, bundles, etc.

          • William – Also, if there WAS a suit against someone regarding code redemption and package splitting, that would be brought by the license holder/publisher, and not by Ultraviolet, so it makes sense their TOS doesn’t cover it.

  2. William Henley

    I was so confused with Game of Thrones this time around. The previous six seasons, I have the steelbooks. However, this time, I was left between the Conquest and Rebellion package, or paying $15 more to get the steelbook which seems to NOT have Conquest and Rebellion. And I was confused as to what Conquest and Rebellion even was. In the end, I said “screw it, I give up” and ordered the cheaper package.

    Mysteries of China is on my wishlist.

  3. Lord Bowler

    I’ll be picking up the ‘Game of Thrones: The Complete Seventh Season’ (HBO)

    Also, on the TV Front, ‘Luke Cage: The Complete First Season’ (Disney/Buena Vista)

    I have all the John Wayne movies and will continue upgrading my DVDs to Blu-Ray with ‘Legend of the Lost’ (Kino)

    I bought the Twilight Time release of ‘Brannigan (Reissue)’ (Kino) already, but may consider picking this up for the different commentary track. It looks like that is all that’s different from the Twilight Time Release.

  4. Judas Cradle

    Schindler’s List-
    “See, white men really can make the world a better place! Aren’t white men just the best?”
    Sully-
    “See, white men really can make the world a better place! Aren’t white men just the best?”
    Young Mr. Lincoln-
    “See, white men really can make the world a better place! Aren’t white men just the best?”
    See how dumb and patronizing that sounds?

    • Timcharger

      It is dumb. That’s the point.

      Weird? Could only use Spielberg once? Spielberg’s Lincoln film would exceed your quota?

      Was Lincoln not white in Spielberg’s film? 🙂

    • Josh Zyber
      Author

      What I see is a long history of Hollywood making movies aggrandizing the actions of white men “saving” minorities incapable of helping themselves. Talk about dumb and patronizing.

      • William Henley

        Isn’t the issue more how some white men save minorities from a much larger group of white men who have a ton of power? It seems to me that most of these movies is more about people taking a stand against evil that the majority (or at least those in power) is enforcing.

        In any case, I thought All Saints was about a pastor who saved a struggling church and turned his community around. I hadn’t seen the movie yet, but I didn’t think anyone had thrown a racism tag at the movie yet.

  5. Csm101

    Game of Thrones season Seven. I’ll probably get it at Best Buy although I’m kind of curious as to what is on the Conquest and Rebellion disc. I would also like to check out Kingsman sequel, but may wait for a price drop. House and House II are of interest and so is Detroit.

  6. Csm101

    I just picked up Game of Thrones season seven from Best Buy in the standard packaging and it includes the Conquest and Rebellion bonus disc.

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