{"id":5259,"date":"2010-08-18T08:00:46","date_gmt":"2010-08-18T15:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.highdefdigest.com\/blog\/?p=5259"},"modified":"2017-05-15T14:29:41","modified_gmt":"2017-05-15T21:29:41","slug":"aliens-dnr-paranoia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.highdefdigest.com\/blog\/aliens-dnr-paranoia\/","title":{"rendered":"In Space, No One Can See Your Grain"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For the moment, let&#8217;s classify this as speculation mixed with just a wee bit of paranoia. Until we can get some more clarification or confirmation, anyway. (For the record, the banner image above this post is exaggerated for effect.) Nonetheless, after an interview James Cameron gave this week, fans suddenly have a lot of reasons to worry about the video transfer quality for the upcoming Blu-ray release of his sci-fi classic &#8216;Aliens&#8217;. <\/p>\n<h6><!--more--><\/h6>\n<p>Remember what a terrible hack-job Fox did with that atrocious &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/bluray.highdefdigest.com\/3429\/predator_ultimatehunteredition.html\">Predator: Ultimate Hunter Edition<\/a>&#8216; Blu-ray recently? You know, the one smothered in so much hideous Digital Noise Reduction that any resemblance to motion picture film has been sapped away and the actors all look like plastic mannequins on screen? Yeah, that one. Naturally, that left fans (entirely reasonably) concerned about what the studio would do to the &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/bluray.highdefdigest.com\/2447\/alienquad.html\">Alien Anthology<\/a>&#8216; box set scheduled for release this October. &#8216;Aliens,&#8217; in particular, has always been a gritty, grainy movie. Would the studio really have the audacity to treat &#8216;Aliens&#8217; as badly as it treated &#8216;Predator&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>Then came word that director James Cameron had been working with Fox on the release and had personally signed off on the new video transfer. Fans breathed a sigh of relief. Surely, a notorious perfectionist like Cameron would never let the studio mangle his work, would he? <\/p>\n<p>Well, as it turns out, maybe. In a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.comingsoon.net\/news\/movienews.php?id=68820 \">sit-down chat with ComingSoon.net<\/a> to promote the theatrical re-release of &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/bluray.highdefdigest.com\/2915\/avatar.html\">Avatar<\/a>&#8216; (now even longer than ever!), the director slips in a few words about the &#8216;Aliens&#8217; Blu-ray remaster at the end, where he more or less boasts that it&#8217;s been DNR&#8217;ed to hell and back, as if that were a good thing. Ah, crap.  <\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what he actually says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I just did a complete remaster of &#8216;Aliens&#8217; personally, with the same colorist I worked on with &#8216;Avatar&#8217;. And it&#8217;s spectacular. We went in and we completely de-noised and de-grained it, up-rezzed it, color-corrected it end to end every frame. And it looks amazing. It looks better than it looked in theaters originally, because it was shot on a high-speed negative that was a new negative that didn&#8217;t pan out too well and got replaced the following year. So it was pretty grainy. We got rid of all the grain. It&#8217;s sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it&#8217;s ever looked. And we did that to the long version, to the &#8220;director&#8217;s cut&#8221; or the extended play. I call it the &#8220;FM Mix.&#8221; That&#8217;s dating myself!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>My heart just sinks when I hear <em>&#8220;completely de-noised and de-grained it&#8221;<\/em> and <em>&#8220;We got rid of all the grain.&#8221;<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Cameron specifies that, <em>&#8220;We did that to the long version, to the &#8216;director\u2019s cut&#8217; or the extended play.&#8221;<\/em> Could that mean that only the extended cut will be DNR&#8217;ed but not the theatrical cut? (The Blu-ray has been announced to contain both versions.) Unfortunately, I find that doubtful. The Blu-ray will most assuredly use seamless branching to integrate the additional bits for the extended cut into the theatrical version. I can&#8217;t imagine that Fox will squeeze two completely separate video transfers onto the same disc. I think Cameron was just trying to emphasize that he cleaned up the <em>whole<\/em> movie, even the long version. Whatever happens with this video transfer will be an all-or-nothing decision that affects both.<\/p>\n<p>Now, to be fair, it&#8217;s entirely possible that Cameron was just throwing out some buzzwords there, expecting that he was speaking to a non-techie audience. Perhaps he really meant that the film will not have any <em>excessive<\/em> grain or noise, beyond that originally photographed during the production, because previous releases of the movie had been transferred from poor-quality dupe film elements. In which case, I&#8217;d be perfectly fine with it.<\/p>\n<p>But then I remember that Cameron also signed off on the &#8216;<a href=\"https:\/\/bluray.highdefdigest.com\/2152\/terminator2_skynet.html \">Terminator 2: Judgment Day \u2013 Skynet Edition<\/a>&#8216; Blu-ray, which has a fair amount of obvious DNR, and looks inferior to the Blu-ray and HD DVD versions of that film released previously in Europe. <\/p>\n<p>Digging way back into the archives, I also pulled up an article from a 1996 issue of &#8216;Widescreen Review&#8217; magazine that explains the horror story behind how Cameron (not explicitly named, but the <em>wink-wink-nudge-nudge<\/em> implication is clear) screwed up the Laserdisc transfer of &#8216;Aliens&#8217; back in the day. It&#8217;s a fun read. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p> Reprinted from Widescreen Review magazine, published by Gary Reber: Volume 5, Number 3, Issue 20. Dated August 1996. Article &#8220;Film-to-Tape Horror Stories: Inside Telecine&#8221; by Marc Wielage. <\/p>\n<p>THE CASE OF THE KILLER GRAIN <\/p>\n<p>One last story. There&#8217;s an infamous laserdisc out there \u2013 you might guess which one it is, but you won&#8217;t find out from me \u2013 which is known for being a particularly ugly transfer of a major science-fiction blockbuster. <\/p>\n<p>Why do good-looking films wind up looking so bad sometimes? In this case, the director was too busy to supervise the film transfer, so he sent over his official representative, Mr. Y, to do the day-to-day work, then the director would come by once a week to view what had been done and then ask for changes where he felt they were necessary. So far so good. <\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, the facility chosen for this film transfer wasn&#8217;t exactly one of the top transfer houses in LA. (In fact, it&#8217;s since gone bankrupt.) Their Rank Flying-Spot Scanners were ten years old at the time of the transfer, and although well-maintained, there&#8217;s only so much that old equipment can do with difficult films. This particular Science Fiction epic had numerous opticals, explosions, and effects, which made it particularly difficult to transfer, with widely-varying exposures and density levels. <\/p>\n<p>To make things worse, the telecine operator assigned to this job was a bit inexperienced. That, combined with the poor judgement of Mr. Y, made many of the film&#8217;s dark scenes come out somewhat grainy and &#8220;pushed&#8221;-looking. This is a typical problem when the gamma (mid-range) settings for the Rank are misadjusted, which tends to exaggerate grain while it brings out more detail. <\/p>\n<p>When the director came in to view the finished result, he decided to bring in his own personal TV set to view the transfer. All the engineers and telecine operators at the facility were aghast, and tried mightily to explain to the director that there&#8217;s no way a $1,000 TV set can reproduce the subtleties of a $10,000 broadcast monitor, but the director wouldn&#8217;t hear of it. &#8220;Nonsense,&#8221; he retorted. &#8220;I&#8217;ve watched hundreds of films on this set. This is my own personal standard, and I just want to use it as an additional reference.&#8221; Numerous changes were made, just comparing the image on the expensive lab-grade monitor and the cheap consumer set, sometimes averaging a compromised setting between the two. This necessitated even more time and expense, since sometimes, the frustrated telecine colorist could make the image look good on one of the monitors, but not both at the same time. <\/p>\n<p>The director was also unhappy with the grain in the problem scenes. As luck would have it, the transfer was recorded on the component digital D-1 video format*, which is now the standard for the telecine industry. Mr. Y suggested that they remove the grain by dubbing the master tape through a noise-reduction device. These noise-reducers (also known as grain reducers) essentially use a computer to make intelligent decisions on a pixel-by-pixel basis, analyzing which part of the picture is noise and which is actual detail, and then subtracting the noise pixels. Unfortunately, when overused, the noise-reducers tend to add a degree of &#8220;lag&#8221; and &#8220;smearing&#8221; to the image, as the overtaxed circuits can&#8217;t make their decisions fast enough. This adds artifacts and flaws, and also tends to make the picture soft. <\/p>\n<p>When he looked at the new tape, the director felt that the image was better, but now it lacked the crispness of the original. Now, the second-generation D-1 tape was fed through an image enhancer, which sharpens images by delaying one line of information and adding a subtle black outline to sharp edges. The director viewed this tape, and he pronounced it better still, but now, too much of the grain was back! <\/p>\n<p>Rather than do the transfer over again, Mr. Y made the decision to again feed the enhanced D-1 dub through the noise-reduction box, only this time, it would be done at a much lower setting. At last, the director viewed the fourth-generation D-1 tape, and approved the noise-reduced, enhanced, and noise-reduced image. But that doesn&#8217;t mean the picture looked good. <\/p>\n<p>Any audiophile knows that the ideal amplifier is a straight wire with gain. The more processing you add to the circuit, the more distortion and noise gets added to the sound. The same is true of video. All this extra processing to this film image created a very strange, &#8220;mushy&#8221; kind of image. The grain patterns tended to &#8220;float&#8221; around the screen in odd, unnatural patterns \u2013 one of the artifacts of certain kinds of noise reducers \u2013 and the extra enhancement added a harsh edginess that exaggerated details and made them very unpleasant. In short, what you basically had was a terribly over-processed picture. If the original transfer had been made on decent equipment to start with, most likely, none of this would have been necessary. <\/p>\n<p>A few weeks after the laserdisc came out, laserdisc buffs started complaining about how strange the transfer looked. This particular disc began attracting a reputation as one of the ugliest on the market. Someone managed to get ahold of Mr. Y, who concocted a story that the grain was an intentional part of the film, giving it a deliberate &#8220;texture&#8221; to those shots, and was a result of the high-speed stock used for the production. But even Mr. Y was at a loss to explain why sometimes, back-to-back shots had different degrees of grain and enhancement. <\/p>\n<p>A few months later, after the studio had been deluged with complaints, they decided to try some tests to see if the film could look better with different equipment. A friend of mine was assigned the task of retransferring the first 10 minutes, just to compare it with the original version. <\/p>\n<p>Mr. Y came in and was understandably perplexed and chagrined to find that the new transfer was sharp, crisp, full of detail, and yet had hardly a spec of grain. He was even more embarrassed to discover that the inexperienced operator who had done the first transfer had misframed the Rank and cut off quite a bit of the image on one side of the frame. The new transfer revealed at least 10 percent more picture, showing more detail and more of the sets and characters. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t care that it&#8217;s better,&#8221; he snapped. &#8220;We&#8217;re not going to go back to square one and re-do this picture from scratch. Besides, the director is much too busy to concern himself with this. The old transfer stays as-is.&#8221; And with that, he stormed out of the facility. <\/p>\n<p>A few years later, a new transfer was quietly prepared and reissued to much fanfare. It was light-years better than the old one. True, the director again brought in his trusty TV set as his own &#8220;personal reference&#8221; and \u2013 despite the fact that the facility managed to drop it and wound up buying a new one \u2013 the new transfer was beautiful. Mr. Y subsequently left the director&#8217;s production company and went on to some success in a different part of the industry. <\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a moral here, except that bad equipment and inexperienced people will invariably result in bad-looking laserdiscs. In fact, I&#8217;d argue that a great telecine operator can probably make better pictures on a mediocre Rank than a horrible telecine operator could on a great Rank. But the key is that excessive video processing isn&#8217;t the right way to fix a bad transfer. <\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- <\/p>\n<p>* The professional D-1 digital component format stores the luminance and color-difference signals separately, providing unusually high detail and very low noise compared to any other format. The D-1 tape signal is virtually identical to that coming out of the Rank itself, and subsequent dubs and tape generations should theoretically be identical to the original. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s right, I remember this sort of thing and file it away for when I need it. What other blog are you going to read that will dredge up a 14-year-old magazine article about a Laserdisc transfer to find relevance with a current event? No other blog, that&#8217;s where. I can guarantee you that.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, that certainly was a long time ago. I&#8217;d expect that Cameron has learned a thing or two about video transfers in the meantime. However, this does seem to speak to his long-standing dissatisfaction with the movie&#8217;s photography, and his desire to &#8220;enhance&#8221; it digitally beyond what was originally photographed. <\/p>\n<p>I have obviously not yet seen the &#8216;Aliens&#8217; Blu-ray for myself. I will reserve judgment on its quality until I have the real thing in my hands. I&#8217;m still holding out hope that this new interview is misleading, and that the disc will in fact have an excellent transfer without any of that ugly, plastic-y DNR look that disgraces the &#8216;Predator&#8217; Blu-ray. I guess I won&#8217;t know for sure until the disc is released in a couple months. Let&#8217;s all cross our fingers.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For the moment, let&#8217;s classify this as speculation mixed with just a wee bit of paranoia. Until we can get some more clarification or confirmation, anyway. (For the record, the banner image above this post is exaggerated for effect.) 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